Costs of educating our young Dr. Pournelle: Jim Lund might want to take a look at this website (feel free to format this in a more useful form, or check my figures): http://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/2006menu_tables.asp This table describes the cost per student in constant dollars: http://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d06/tables/dt06_167.asp Note that the costs have gone up by a factor of three since 1963. (Compare costs per student with the private school numbers in this chart:) http://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d06/tables/dt06_056.asp Now let's check out the estimated annual teacher salaries, again in constant dollars: http://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d06/tables/dt06_075.asp In the same period (since 1963), the salaries went from $38,680 to $49,569. A factor of about 1.3. Obviously, the teachers aren't the ones responsible for the tripling of costs. As one more cherry on the top, note the pupil/teacher ratios, often cited as a problem in modern schools: http://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d06/tables/dt06_061.asp The ratios have dropped steadily since the 1950s. In fact, they're about half what they were in 1955. Is there more than a little fat in the current public school system? These statistics aren't absolute proof, but shake the old 8-ball and signs point to yes. I may have sent you a similar e-mail sometime in the past. If so, my apologies. Tom Brosz http://www.jerrypournelle.com/mail/mail480.html#Friday